[lavie]

Salut Lavie, tu n’as pas peur de prendre une éclaboussure dans les yeux ?

Je me pose la question de savoir si c’est rentable, pour un pro bien sur !, de nettoyer ses cadres ?
Vu le temps passé, l’achat de la soude, le karcher avec l’eau etc….?
sachant qu’un cadre de corps coute 50 cts ou pas loin ……
Est ce que les pros passent leur temps à ça ?
Moi perso jusqu’à présent je ne le fais pas et vous ?

bonsoir Machairodus
pour les éclaboussures dans les yeux effectivement je ne suis pas suffisamment prudent.
pour le temps passé j’ai mis environ 7 heures pour nettoyer 735 cadres sur lesquelles j’ai déjà récupéré + où – 70 kg de cire, la soude coûte 3 francs 6 sous, une grande partie des cadres sont de ma fabrication donc j y tiens, les cadres du commerce ne me conviennent pas ils ont les bois plus épais.
pour moi octobre et novembre c’est calme le travaille sur les ruches est fini depuis le 10 octobre.

[machairodus]

Thierry71, je les paye 65 cts HT

[picouty 26]

salut a tous
je souhaite nettoyer des cadres à la soude.
la vidéo de lavie est très bien!
par contre , j’ai réalisé une recherche de dosage de la lessive de soude sur le net , et, on est, suivant les sources, à:
0.7%; 2% 4 %,8% ; qu’en pensez; que faites vous?!
Merci
vous les achetez ou vos tabliers en bâche?

[lavie]

bonsoir.
tablier de traite chez agri sud

[ZAYA_26740]

bonsoir.
tablier de traite chez agri sud

Merci,
Temps qu’il a lavie, y a de l’espoir !
@+

[picouty 26]

et alors que est le pourcentage que vous utilisez?!

[picouty 26]

Thierry!
on n’avance pas avec ça, regarde Zaya il donne des dosages précis lui……..
quant il les donne le bougre
Picouty

[ZAYA_26740]

Avec l’âge il deviens “dur de la feuille” l’picouty ! :twisted
j’t’ai déjà expliqué que je n’utilisais PAS la soude ! :ohmy:
Je stérilise à la vapeur d’eau, c’est le procédé utilisé dans les hôpitaux, je sais, pas pour les cadres, mais ce qui est important, c’est de sortir des cadres propres et stériles !
Tété pas parti dans un cérificateur solaire ? C’est bon, t’as compris ! tu l’a jeté !
@+

[picouty 26]

ou là là le zaya, il a du marcher dans une c..te de chien ,ce matin, et pas avec le bon pied!
mon cerificateur, il marche , mais compte tenu que je l’ai fait un peu gros, il a une forte emprise au sol devant mon atelier ( 2 m de diamètre!)……
cil m’a permis de faire fondre tout ce que j’avais à fondre l’an dernier,……
par contre , les cadres,( et il y en a un gros tas!), je souhaiterais les nettoyer à la soude, pour enlever le restant de cire, et les décaper un peu plus!

avec ta stérilisation à la vapeur , est tu sur de bien décaper sanitaire ment tes cadres,( tu ne monte pas à 120°c!)?

reste sous la couette, il à gelé blanc ce matin, à 11 heure tu ira mieux, et en plus tu pourra aller voir tes zaza, qui rentreront surement du pollen!
Picouty

[lavie]

Thierry!
on n’avance pas avec ça, regarde Zaya il donne des dosages précis lui……..
quant il les donne le bougre
Picouty

entre 4 et 8% ce n’est pas précis

[Fontaliere]

ou là là le zaya, il a du marcher dans une c..te de chien ,ce matin, et pas avec le bon pied!
mon cerificateur, il marche , mais compte tenu que je l’ai fait un peu gros, il a une forte emprise au sol devant mon atelier ( 2 m de diamètre!)……
cil m’a permis de faire fondre tout ce que j’avais à fondre l’an dernier,……
par contre , les cadres,( et il y en a un gros tas!), je souhaiterais les nettoyer à la soude, pour enlever le restant de cire, et les décaper un peu plus!

avec ta stérilisation à la vapeur , est tu sur de bien décaper sanitaire ment tes cadres,( tu ne monte pas à 120°c!)?

reste sous la couette, il à gelé blanc ce matin, à 11 heure tu ira mieux, et en plus tu pourra aller voir tes zaza, qui rentreront surement du pollen!
Picouty

il est aussi gros que celui-là ?

[picouty 26]

hé non, pas aussi gros!
en fait , je me suis inspiré de celui la, j’ai contacté l’apiculteur qui est à l’origine de l’hélicire!
d’ailleurs , je crois qu’il a mis le schéma que je lui ai envoyé ( pour confirmer les dimensions) sur son site
un api très très sympa!
le mien n’a que 2 parties au lieu de 8 sur le sien!
j’ai tenté de le motoriser, car le problème d’un tel cerificateur,(avec ce niveau d’inclinaison) c’est qu’il est très efficace lorsqu’il est face au soleil, mais lorsque le soleil “avance”, le certificateur est moins, beaucoup moins efficace”
j’ai donc utilisé un moteur réducteur , puis un bidouillage, qui permet de positionner le cerificateur face au soleil de 10 h à 16 h 30.
si la journée est ensoleillée, de mars à octobre, je met 20 cadres, qui sont fondus le soir !
je ne suis pas pressé, je laisse les cadres 2 jours pour tirer toute la cire!
(a ce moment là, il ne reste plus que les cocons des alvéoles, et rien au centre, la cire a coulé!)
malheureusement ce printemps, il a fonctionné “à plein” jusqu’à fin mai,(….)
Quel plaisir d’avoir une ruche attaquée par la teigne!; tu ouvre le cerificateur , positionne tes cadres, et referme; une minute après, les chenilles ont chaud, tres chaud, et tombent dans les bacs, vous ne pouvez pas vous imaginer, des grosses, des petites!
un bon outil, mais volumineux!
Picouty
allez voir la vidéo, vous voyez la cire couler , c’est réel lorsque le soleil brille bien!

[wq123]

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